The leader of the anti-devolutionist party Abolish the Welsh Assembly, Richard Suchorzewski, struggled to answer whether or not he thought that Cymru was a country while appearing on BBC Cymru's Politics Live.
Journalist James Williams asked Suchorzewski, "Is Wales a country?", which was met with a long pause.
Transcript:
Suchorzewski: "I don't understand the premise behind that question, quite frankly... I view it as a nation. I view it as a country. I view it as an entity, within, though, the United Kingdom."
Williams: "Which other country in the world doesn't have its own parliament?"
Suchorzewski: "We're a country of three million people. Now, quite frankly, if we look, you have counties in England..."
Williams: "Can you name any other country that doesn't have its own parliament?"
Suchorzewski: "I don't understand the point you're making, with respect."
Williams: "Well, every other country in the world has its own parliament, but you think that Wales, being a country, doesn't deserve its own parliament, shouldn't have its own parliament."
'Abolish'
Abolish the Welsh Assembly is a single-issue party which campaigns for the abolition of the Senedd, and for devolved powers to be returned to Westminster.
It is important to clarify that despite the party's name, Cymru no longer has an assembly, but rather a parliament with full law-making powers.
This has been the case since the 2011 devolution referendum on the matter, whereby the Welsh people voted 63%-37% in favour of granting the institution full law-making powers.